Last week our BSN thread was closed due to being off topic and other technicalities, this sparked the following conversation with Stanley Woo who is a BSN moderator/rep:
Where can we PS3 owners ask Bioware our legitimate need of Mass Effect 1?
allowed "retakers" to ravege the boards with anger and insults.
pacifically asking something that we DO really miss.
Big chunks of the story
and you should know it.
We are customers and fans too and you can't take us
down just because we started everything in a pacific way.
So, take notice of
us and tell to the higher-ups.
you won't kill us easily!
I have no idea what you're talking about. PS3 users playing
Mass Effect 2 were able to make specific choices with the interactive comic
book. This was done specifically for PS3 users because Mass effect 1 was not
available to them.
I've done a bit of
homework over the last few months and I recently came across a list of Mass
Effect 1 decisions that have consequences to the amount of War assets you get in
posted that list in the ME1 on PS3 thread. The decisions from the comic were
MAJOR decisions but there were other decisions like saving the Zhu's Hope
In Mass Effect 2 there is a lady in Illuim who thanks Shepard that
he/she saved her from Feros and mentions the Thorian. There is quite a bit of
story related to that in ME1, There are many other references -- I wont go as
far as to say plot holes -- but unless you've played ME1, then ME2 makes alot
Also Conrad Verner supposedly gives you a discount in ME2 (he is
not in ME2 nor is he in ME3 on the PS3) but I'm guessing that the discount was
handed out by Eruba (the girl with the poem obsessed Krogan Charr in
What it boils down to that it is only fair that PS3 gamers
should be able to play the first part of the trilogy. I mean you wouldn't want
to read only the middle to the end of a book would you?
(On a seperate
note - regarding the 'missing' war assets, have the developers taken them into
consideration when calculating the EMS for those playing the PS3 version in
order to see the 'secret ending')
Would you be able to ask
>>What it boils down to
that it is only fair that PS3 gamers should be able to play the first part of
Why is it "only fair"? BioWare has never implied that PS3 would
get Mass Effect 1, nor has any such thing been discussed, let alone promised.
"Fairness" has very little to do with it.
I happen to
think it's unfair, as are a lot of 'business' decisions Bioware made to exclude
certain sections of your Mass Effect community.
Mass Effect 1 was only
released on Xbox360/PC (business decision obviously)
Mass Effect datapad only
for iOS and not for other OS's
Multiplayer Events (for Xbox360/PC only 'for
No avatars/PS3 themes/incentiives for PS3 gamers (yet Xbox360 have
Bioware seem to give the impression they don't like the PS3
Lack of support on the forums etc.
But anyway I digress.
Main point is we would like to see Mass Effect 1 on the PS3 whether it
has been discussed by Bioware (which I'm sure it has at some point) or not is
neither here nor there.
Ok, to put
it down easy.
Mass Effect 1 on PS3 = happy PS3 fanbase, money for
Simple equation. Win-win situation.
People with ME2 and ME3
will buy ME1 for sure and WON'T SELL THEIR COPIES.
There's also lots of
people that hasn't bought ME2 and ME3 yet because they don't want an incomplete
But they're likely to jump in.
There's people that has the whole
trilogy on 360 that want to have it on PS3 too.
WE WANT TO GIVE YOU OUR
So, no promised, not discussed, but really WORTH of being
The 6 decisions on Genesis are not enough and don't carry
20 minutes comics to replace a 40+ hours game.
think it can replace it, let me disagree saying that it's insulting.
>>Bioware seem to give the impression they don't like the
Lack of support on the forums etc.
The forums have never
been the primary avenue of tech support for our games. Primary tech support has
always been provided by our publishers. The tech support forums are here for the
COMMUNITY to help each other. BioWare will sometimes reach out to the tech
support forums for help in tracking down certain bugs, but this is by no means a
guarantee, explicit or implied.
>>Main point is we would like to
see Mass Effect 1 on the PS3
Okay, and that's a fair thing to want to see.
Again, "fairness" has absolutely nothing to do with it, but there's nothing
wrong with phrasing it the way you have. I doubt it will happen, since BioWare
has already accounted for PS3 users in ME2 with the interactive comment, but we
never know what the future might bring.
>>Mass Effect 1 on PS3 =
happy PS3 fanbase, money for EA/Bioware.
Simple equation. Win-win
No, I'm afraif it is not that simple (things rarely are in game
development). Mass Effect 1 on PS3 = a lot of work for EA/BioWare, potentially
limited happy PS3 fanbase. Win-(lots of work for little return)
>>There's also lots of people that hasn't bought ME2 and
ME3 yet because they don't want an incomplete story.
that has the whole trilogy on 360 that want to have it on PS3 too.
cite your sources.
>>WE WANT TO GIVE YOU OUR MONEY.
want us to do a whole lot of work and you're presuming to speak for a large
section of our audience, including a section that already has the game on a
different platform, which I'm not sure can be accurate to any degree.
not saying "no, it will never happen, and that's final!" All I'm saying is that
you're not going to convince me (or BioWare) that it's a viable project to
undertake with the arguments you are presenting
Regarding the Technical Support by EA (the amount of
times I've contacted them about Mass Effect in general - they always refer me
back to the forum/or they say they will pass the issue on to Bioware (if it's
I understand the triage system that is in place, but how
sure can we be that issues other members and myself have raised 'are being
passed on/looked into and/or addressed' (either by EA or via the
Although I am only one person, I own Mass Effect 1 and Mass
Effect 2 for the Xbox360
I bought the console purely to Mass Effect 1, and
intend to buy Mass Effect 3 for the Xbox360 as well at a later date
said that I would still like to see the trilogy on the PS3 (it is my preferred
Thank you for taking the time to write with us.
>>how sure can we be
that issues other members and myself have raised 'are being passed on/looked
into and/or addressed' (either by EA or via the forums).<<
There is no
guarantee that the issues being raised are "being passed on" or "looked into",
nor is such a guarantee promised, indicated or even implied by the game's EULA,
site's ToS, or Site Rules. Sorry.
>>Having said that I would still
like to see the trilogy on the PS3 (it is my preferred system).
And I think
that's awesome. I would like to see that too, but I personally see it as
unlikely to happen.
What we were trying to do here in the
thread, was PACIFICALLY collecting people to present you guys as proof that we
would like this to happen, then your efforts would pay.